Ned and Meg discuss Eschatonic Immanentization because Meg is learning to program and has mixed feelings. Also included in today’s episode are tech industry woes and complaints, the Swamp of Sadness, David Foster Wallace, bizarro world communism and capitalism, and Frederik Pohl books. This one probably sparked a series because we have a lot of thoughts. Shocker! Wash your hands, wear a mask. We’re in the home stretch, don’t ruin it now!